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Gregorio Web App with GUI - "Illuminare Score Editor"

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Over the past several months, Benjamin Bloomfield and I have developed a web application for the processing of Gregorio GABC. We have now made available a public facing installation of this app for general use:

http://illuminarepublications.com/gregorio/

There are some variable items, but much of the styling is preset to common practice conventions. Note the live GUI and the ability to play back scores via MIDI. This is the beginning of something wonderful, I think.

Please report bugs or make feature requests on this thread.

Seeking New Men's/Women's Schola Members - Grand Rapids, MI

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Sacred Heart of Jesus Church is seeking men and women interested in singing in the scholas for the weekly EF Mass. (You may recall seeing postings regarding the CD "Stella Splendens", recently released by the girl's schola of SHoJ.)

SHoJ is the only parish in the Diocese of Grand Rapids to offer the older form of Mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation since an indult was granted in 1990.

The overall sacred music program is currently being rebuilt as part of a larger vision for the parish under the pastorate of Rev. Robert Sirico, in an effort to integrate all aspects of parish life similar to that of St. John Cantius, Chicago. In addition to the men's schola, a women's schola for the EF has begun rehearsals. OF Masses held at 10:30 AM include a mixed adult choir, currently rehearsing, and a boy's and girl's choir is in the process of being formed.

If you live in the greater Grand Rapids area, and are looking for an opportunity to participate in a "reform of the reform"-oriented sacred music program, especially if you have previous experience in chant and sacred polyphony, please contact me at dsaunders@sacredheartgr.org. For more information about SHoJ, visit the website at http://home.catholicweb.com/SacredHeartofJesus/#.UnuDLCeziSp. If you scroll down toward the bottom of the first page, you'll see a category labeled "Sacred Music" where I've posted a series of articles, some of which contain more information about the program.

laetentur coeli : english translation?

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...an little known version of this canticle? is anyone familiar with it? is there an english translation of it?

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Propers vs ordinary?

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I've heard several people in music positions refer to parts of the Mass (such as the Our Father or the Holy) as the "Propers"--is that ever correct?

I understood that "Propers" refers exclusively to the Antiphons that are "proper" to that specific day and the "ordinary" is the parts of the Mass that don't change. Yes?

Solemn Tones

Hodie Christus Natus Est

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I would like to have my little "schola" (self plus my three teens) sing this before Christmas Eve Mass. We are very much newbies at this so I would like to find the simplest plus nicest arrangement for our four voices. We can sing SATB, two, three, or just one voice if that would be best. Suggestions?

Thanks,
Kathy

How to download gabc file from http://gabc.romanliturgy.org/propers.html

Your Top Ten Gregorian Chants

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Please list them in your preference...include links to favorite YouTube videos of them if possible.

1. Jesu Dulcis Memoria
2. Salve Regina
3....

Ascendit Deus in jubilatione

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I have a copy of Liber Cantualis in modern notation that has this chant:

V. Ascendit Deus in jubilatione. R. Alleluia, Alleluia. V. Et Dominus in voce tubae. R. Alleluia, alleluia. V. Gloria Patri… R. Alleluia, Alleluia. V. Sicut… V. Ascendit… R. Alleluia, alleluia.

(This may be a bit off because the typesetting leaves something to be desired.)

Anyway: anyone know where this comes from and where I can get it in square notation?

Christus Vincit

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I have a question about the chant Christus Vincit.

In section III, after praying for the local bishop or archbishop, the next two lines invoke saints, but indicate that the saints invoked may vary. Should the saints be the bishop's patron and the diocese's patron? Or what? (See attached sample to see what I'm talking about).

Lecture on Gregorian Chant & medieval sacred music from Yale intro course

Office Psalm Tones - Accompaniment

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The title pretty much says it all: can anyone please point me to an organ accompaniment for the office psalm tones?

Antiphonale Romanum II

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I received my copy of the Antiphonale Romanum II (Vesperale) a few weeks ago. My wife and I are interested in forming a schola cantorum in New York City to sing Sunday Vespers in the Ordinary Form on a more-or-less regular basis. We would seek a venue in Brooklyn or Manhattan that would be willing to support this. The advantages of using the OF to begin with are several: shorter cursus of psalmody, the possibility of using the vernacular for parts of the office (capitulum, preces, etc.), and the synchronization with the OF calendar. In general, many parishes might find this less threatening than what might be perceived as a traditionalist infiltration. Furthermore, sung Vespers would not absolutely require the leadership of an ordained cleric, which would give the group some flexibility. Of course the ideal would be to work up to solemn vespers with the participation of the whole community, but we are willing to start small!

A question arises, then, as to the production of the libelli for the faithful who may assist: assuming that Solesmes would not object to our reprinting hymns and some responses of the ordinary (e.g. Deus in adjutorium), what about the sticky issue of copyright when it comes to translations of the Latin? My inclination is to stick to ecclesiastically approved versions, but those approved for liturgical use are all under copyright protection, including the ICEL texts, Grail Psalter (GIA-controlled), and NAB (USCCB-controlled). Would we be required to seek permission on a week-to-week basis for all these texts? Frankly, it seems more trouble than it's worth. The alternative would be to go with something like the Book of Divine Worship (Anglican Use) for the psalter and RSV or Douay-Rheims for the scripture readings. This doesn't solve the problem of antiphons, canticles, and orations. Furthermore, many of the antiphons in the Antiphonale do not match up with the texts in Liturgia Horarum, so presumably new translations would be required.

Any suggestions as to how to solve these potential problems, as well as ideas for implementing such a scheme would be most welcome.

Accompaniment for Mittit ad Virginem

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Has anyone come across an accompaniment for the Annunciation chant, "Mittit ad Virginem?"

Psalm Tone III changed - Nunc Dimittis

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I have always chanted the Nunc Dimittis of compline to tone III with the reciting note on the fourth above the first note of the intonation, matching the beginning of the antiphon Salva nos. I think this is how the Liber Usualis has it. However, I note in various sources (e.g., the Liber Cantualis) that the reciting note seems to have move to the third, and the beginning of the antiphon altered to match. How can a psalm tone change so radically?

I suppose this may be a somewhat academic question, but, practically, I have to adopt either one or the other. Any suggestions for preferring one over the other would be appreciated. Have the new tones been officially promulgated by the Church, i.e., they are now the normative tones for the Roman Rite, so I should adopt them, or are they merely experimental tones, in which case I should remain with the traditional usage? Comments on this are likewise welcome. Thanks.

Moving beyond the Simple English Propers

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I had a long Facebook conversation the other day with a very talented and interesting Music Director. Something that he said gravely disturbed me - he mentioned that his choir had been singing all three propers from the SEP every Sunday. Since 2011.

Huh?

The Simple English Propers were a revolutionary project and are a resource that filled a very nice gap. They are a wonderful product that can be used as a beginning point for beginner directors and beginner choirs singing chant at Holy Mass. But how on earth could you sing them every week for years?

I worked at a Parish from last December until a week ago. It was, more or less, for the first 10 years of its existence a Life-Teen parish musically. Most songs during Mass were praise and worship on piano or guitar-based with a sprinkle of traditional hymnody thrown in. Chant, with the exception of Agnus Dei XVIII, seemed non-existent from the choir (though plentiful from the sanctuary). When I came in we made a rather drastic shift to using the propers found in the Lumen Christi Missal and in Fr. Samuel Weber's work, propers from the Gradual when we had time, and solid hymnody & organ music. The folks in the choir learned quickly how to do things, how to read neumes, etc. I did use the Simple English Propers (and once or twice the Ostrowski Mode II Propers) when needed - primarily when I knew I had a cantor who did not have time to come in and rehearse with me (single parents or working a hectic schedule) that could benefit from the YouTube videos available for the SEP that aren't available for the newer material (yet). But when I had time to rehearse with the singer? The SEP never entered my mind.

The Simple English Propers were a great place to start. But they're all the same... Every Introit by the same mode is nearly the same. Every Offertory in the same mode is the same. Ditto for the Communio. It makes the Propers (which should change with every Mass and have a melody and text that unite together beautifully!) seem stagnant and "ordinary."

The Simple and more solemn versions put out by Bartlett for the Lumen Christi Series, on the other hand, treat the text in a much more specific way. The text and the chant work together - each chant having a life of its own with the text - rather than being systematic. Similar things could be said for the Introits/Communios of Fr. Columba Kelly and the proper chants put out by Fr. S. Weber. They're really beautiful pieces of music that I think can really stand the test of time in a way that the SEP cannot. On weekends where we would do pieces from the SEP I would be dreading them by the 4th or 5th Mass of the weekend - but that is again not the case for the Lumen Christi chants or Weber chants. These have life - though not quite to the level of the actual chants of the Gradual - and can be repeated with success and without becoming tedious.

At my last rehearsal for the parish I mentioned above, I went through all of the Propers for the first few Sundays of Advent with them to give them a heads-up before they began working with the Interim Director of Music. Usually these required some real spoon-feeding (I sing the phrase, they sing the phrase, repeat, repeat, repeat). When we got to the Communio for Advent II from the Lumen Christi Missal, something amazing happened. They got it. Instantly. No repeating back and forth necessary. HOW COULD THIS BE? Well, they sang it the previous year - my first Sunday at the Parish. They began singing it better than they'd ever sung chant before. And it was different than when we'd occasionally use the SEPs and come across a Mode I Introit - they all knew that pattern and would pick it up but without excitement. This had excitement! It was like they were seeing an old friend for the first time in a year! The fluidity of the text and tune for the Communio of Advent II propelled them forth and they sang it like it was something they'd known for years! It was thrilling! Hearing the words "Jerusalem, arise and stand upon the heights," sore forward and upward gave me almost as much enjoyment of hearing the words "ad te levavi" sung by a professional choir.

I've put together a few examples of this, comparing the different versions of the vernacular chants available for specific days. I've included the SEP, Lumen Christi (simple or gradual), Fr. Kelly, and Fr. Weber's chants in these. I make no editorial comment on which of these I think is best in each case, but if you sing the SEP version and then ANY of the other vernacular versions, I'm sure you'll see concretely the point that I am trying to make.

The Simple English Propers were a necessity in 2011. They filled a gap that was left empty for too long with a neat and tidy easy to use book, a wonderfully put together website, and an easy-to-use resource. Now, however, we have to move beyond them. If you're not at the point of opening the Graduale Romanum every week yet, it's time to look at the other options: The Graduale Simplex, the Lumen Christi Missal/Gradual/Simple Gradual, Fr. Weber's resources, Fr. Kelly's resources, and others. The better the chants are that you are using, the more successful the future of sacred music will be. Any choir presently singing the Simple English Propers (except those who totally rely on the youtube rehearsal videos) could open the Lumen Christi Gradual and sing the simple versions this Sunday. We need to realize that the SEP can be a tool that is useful in some cases, but that in most cases it is time to move beyond them.

Perhaps we'd like to discuss the comparisons I've posted. Obviously if any of the owners of these chants would like them removed, I'd be glad to do so.

1961 Liber Usualis on eBay now

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Hi guys, Just saw that on eBay USA:
1961 Liber Usualis for $50 or bid starts at $20.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231111528096
Excellent condition apparently.
I would have gone for it but shipping is always high from USA to UK...

I know the etiquette says commercial posts will be deleted but I get nothing from this, I am not the seller; just wanted you American guys to benefit from the announcement and get the book before anybody else.
Of course if you think this message breaks the rules, please delete it.

Simplified Chants?

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I very often (almost daily) use the simplified versions of the Gregorian Graduals, Tracts, and Alleluias; However, a question always comes into my mind when singing these versions, particularly with regard to the Gradual. It may be a stupid question, but I might as well just ask it at the risk of looking like a fool :

The Verses of these Responsories are often quite difficult which makes sense, since, historically, these verses would have been sung by the most experienced Cantors. Why are we substituting psalm-tones for the virtuoso passages and not the passages sung by the full schola? Wouldn't it make more sense, when a parish schola is comprised of both experienced and inexperienced people, to have a slightly simplified version of the Respond for the full schola, and then the Cantors can sing the full verse as in the Graduale? I use the simplified versions to save time (yeah, I know, but otherwise, I probably wouldn't get away with using the Alleluias from the Graduale at daily Mass); is this the main reason why people use these - convenience? Just asking.

Someone has scanned or pdf Carmelite songs?

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hi
i am looking for someone carmelites musics as: "singularis, eia carmeli, rosa carmeli, and the music proper Sta Teresa (carmelite) as Dant Mihi, Alellúia declaratio, dedit tei, e and hymn as Dum Crucem, Anyone know where i find it or has it?

Auguso Kenji Takahara

Credo III formatted for 8.5x11 sheets?

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Hi all, nothing like a last minute request, but...

Does anyone have Creed III (in Latin and in Gregorian notation) formatted for 8.5x11 sheets? If so, you'll gain a devoted fan in the sunny South and will save our Midnight Mass program at least a few pages of space! :) Thank you!
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