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Teaching Gregorian Chant to Children

July 14, 2013, 5:30 am
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We have a small, but rather talented Children's Choir with a very capable children's choir director. This past year, the children managed a few of the easier Lenten Introit Antiphons out of the Simplex and did VERY well with the ICEL Chants in English.
How would you proceed with developing the choir's experience with chant? What techniques have you used? Which chants?
We also have a liturgy choir at the elementary school which consisted of six 4th grade students got which I am responsible. They have VERY little experience with chant. Where would you start?
I'm sensing there will be opposition, particularly from the school community. Suggestions for gently incorporating a chant to round out their repertoire? I'm sure the argument that it is "unsingable" will be my primary obstacle.

Thanks in advance!
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Psalterium Monasticum and Antiphonale Monasticum

July 18, 2013, 4:59 am
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Special tone for Easter Gospel?

March 6, 2008, 4:40 pm
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Hi there folks,
Has anyone ever heard of a special tone for the Easter Sunday Gospel in the extraordinary use? If so, where can the music be found?
Thanks!
In Christo per Mariam,
Chris.
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Litany of the saints for priesthood ordination

April 22, 2010, 10:43 am
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Hi,

Would someone be aware where I could find a latin copy of the Litany of the Saints used for priesthood ordination ?

Thanks,
Deacon Greg
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Need help getting started with singing Compline

May 22, 2011, 8:22 am
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Hello everyone,
I started a "garage schola" about 6 months ago. We meet half an hour before the regular choir rehearsal (I am not the choir leader, but the choir leader has given me full support). We have sung through a number of hymns, and have done a little bit of psalmnody. I would like to try out singing the office of Compline. I think to get started it would be great to have something to print out and distribute that would have a complete service from start to end (without flipping back and forth between pages). Do you have any suggestions? I have one that was linked to here by Dan F. which looks pretty good.

Also, since this is a pretty casual group (so far!) I would like to keep it as simple as possible, in terms of not having only a few versions of the office in our repertoire. Are there any resources that would have meet this need? Again, I'd like to have something where the singers wouldn't have to flip around the booklet.

Any comments would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Chris
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A suggestion for the next biggest chant project by CMAA/CCWatershed

July 24, 2013, 9:11 am
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Still, to this day, there is no Liber Usualis for the Ordinary Form.

We need a Liber Usualis for the Ordinary Form that is similar to the one for the Extraordinary Form, especially if we want Gregorian Chant to become manifest as the council had intended.

Discuss.
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History of the Liber Usualis

October 27, 2009, 6:12 am
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What was last year of publication for the Liber Usualis (prior to the reprinting of the 1953 edition by St. Bonaventure Press in the 90s)?

I've seen one dated 1963 with 'sed et beati Ioseph' in the Canon; but then I discovered one dated 1964. So: just how far into the 60s did it make it, and I wonder if there aren't boxes of them in warehouses, waiting to be rediscovered (think: Raiders of the Lost Ark final scene!).

As a historian and one fascinated by the turmoil of the conciliar liturgical process wreaked upon the great publishing houses, I'm just curious.

Thanks,

Fr. Ramil Fajardo
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Chant database

July 27, 2013, 10:30 pm
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My name is Fr. Morgan and Ii would like to start EF Sunday Vespers in my parish. Anyone have any success with this? Does anyone know of a chant database (Gregorio) for EF Sunday Vespers based on the 1962 Liber?
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Request for information

July 28, 2013, 4:27 am
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Will someone take a look at the following YOUTUBE link for me, please? I came across it by chance.

Sung Traditional Latin Mass (Pius X rubrics) celebrated by Fr. Julian Larrabee

I recognised the opening music (and introit setting) as the psalm tone from Asperges me and another proper setting as the psalm tone from the introit Resurrexi, with which I am familiar. In a conversation with our temporary assistant priest, I leaned about Rossini tones and that provided part of the answer I was seeking. The assistant priest is a convert Anglican clergyman, by the way, so that explains why he is familiar with Gregorian chant!

In the notes underneath the YOUTUBE clip, there is reference to the Octave of the Immaculate Conception and that gave me a link to the proper of the Mass. A bit of detective work, listening to the Kyrie and then seeking an eye-match for the notes in my head in Liber Usualis, led me to Mass XII. I cross-checked this with the Sanctus in the same way, for verification. Our assistant priest informed me that form of the Credo setting, almost a monotone with a slight flex at the end of a line, was an acceptable practice among choirs without full music training.

While I am on this subject, is the intonation of the Gloria (6.15) different from the one in Mass XII or am I mistaken? Similarly, is the Credo intonation from Credo I (15.38) or am I mistaken here too?.

I cannot, however, make out what is at 21.00 and what is at 44.33 and this is the (eventual) point of this enquiry. Can anyone provide the answer, please?

I have to say, from a personal perspective, that the simple and dignified elegance of this celebration is almost breathtaking.

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Reportage: An EF Nuptial Mass in Evansville Indiana

July 28, 2013, 1:38 pm
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I was fortunate to be part of an EF "Nuptial" Mass at St. Boniface Church in Evansville IN on Saturday July 27. The couple had been planning for more than a year. It was a missa cantata with schola and organ.

The ordo:

Seating of the grandparents: Ave Maria Arcadelt
Procession: Prelude to the Te Deum Charpentier
Presentation of flowers to the Virgin: Flos Carmeli
Introit: Deus Israel
Gloria: Missa "cum jubilo"
Grad: Uxor tua
Alleluia: Mittat vobis Dominus
Off: in te speravi (Organ improvised on chant after it was sung)
Sanctus and Agnus Dei: Missa "cum jubilo:
Comm: Ecce sic benedicetur
"Ave Verum' Mozart
rec: Toccata Dubois

For the priest ( a dear friend), it was his first EF mass. He really worked hard.
A very beautiful liturgy all in all.
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Sets of Propers

August 5, 2011, 8:05 am
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Trying to compile a list of all available sets of Propers in Latin and/or English.

Information I'd like, if known:

-Title of Collection
-Authorship
-Propers Included (for example, the SEP only leaves out the Gradual; the Tietze introit collection has only Introits)
-language (and if in English, perhaps a note about the translation)
-Style (chant, polyphony, non-polyphonic choral, strophic hymnody, folk, punk rock, etc)
-Completeness (whole cycle? just advent and Christmas? half-done due to composer's death? in progress?)
-EF or OF? (If EF, is there an index to the OF?)
-Public Domain, Open License, or Protected?
-Where available (link(s) to download or purchase).


If so inclined, would be most helpful to format your contribution as in the following example:



Simple English Propers
Adam Bartlett
Introit, Offertory, Communion
English (Standard modern)
Plainchant with Psalm-tones
Complete Cycle
OF
Open License
http://musicasacra.com/sep/
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Liber Brevior reprint

July 23, 2008, 12:03 am
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I am from Preserving Christian Publications (www.pcpbooks.com), and we are interested in reprinting the 1954 edition of the Liber Brevior, and in fact have already begun pre-press work on it. However, we halted the work as we wanted to ensure that there would be enough viable interest in this book to make it worth our while since finances are tight right now.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with this book, the advantage of the Liber Brevior over its big brother, the full Liber Usualis, is that it is more compact and practical for choirs since it does not contain matters for the Divine Office (except Vespers), which will also make it a more affordable book.

Also, because the Holy Week propers are out of date with the Holy Week reforms made from 1955 to 1962, in tandem with the Liber Brevior, we were also going to reprint the 1957 edition of the Holy Week Chants book (as a set with the L.B.), which is completed for choirs that follow the traditional reformed Holy Week rites.

In any case, I would be glad to hear of everyone's input on this important matter and until next, God bless.

PCPbooks
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Respighi's love of Gregorian chant

August 4, 2013, 12:24 am
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… the Suite (originally Symphony) in E (1903), in which distinctive Respighian phraseology is often foreshadowed. Here, as in Christus [composed at age 19], there are occasional signs that he was responsive to Gregorian chant long before he met his future wife, despite her oft-quoted claim that it was she who first induced him to study plainsong systematically.
Vetrate di chiesa, though it too is colourful and ostensibly pictorial, consists largely of orchestral amplifications of the abstract Tre preludi sopra melodie gregoriane for piano (1919–21).

The best known of the overtly abstract compositions whose use of plainsong-like material followed on from the Tre preludi is the Concerto gregoriano for violin and orchestra (1921), whose central movement features the familiar Easter sequence Victimae paschali. Elsewhere in the work the allusions to plainchant are more fleeting and disguised; the quasi-pastoral result parallels some of the more calmly modal music of Vaughan Williams. Likewise pervaded by freely plainsong-like themes are the long and rather diffuse Concerto in modo misolidio for piano and orchestra (1925), and the more impressive Quartetto dorico (1924), in which predominantly modal material is put to richly varied uses within a seemingly rhapsodic yet thematically unified single movement structure.
in Maria egiziaca ["The Egyptian Mary"] – originally designed for small-scale, semi-staged presentation in the concert hall but thereafter performed quite often in Italian opera houses – he matched Guastalla’s self-consciously archaic libretto with austerely evocative music in which Gregorian, Renaissance and Monteverdian influences are evident, alongside others of more recent origin.
(source)

Listen for Sanctus IX, especially in the brass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbaPe7A6KlU

Listen for Missa de Angelis's Sanctus in the organ and, toward the end, in the brass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pidXzX0wZf0

Listen for the Easter sequence "Victimae paschali:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsyr_jFrpI4

Other Gregorian chant-like influences:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR_DhxQk6T4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIDRqfjnDfU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adkV_nFbbIQ
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Favorite Parts of the Ordinary?

August 1, 2013, 11:07 am
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On another thread, JulieColl talked about how beautiful the Agnus Dei from Mass VI is. We have been singing for 5 years now, and we have used the Ordinary for Masses I, IV, VIII, IX, XI, and XVII, and we're learning XV to start singing that in September. Even though I know it is not required, we stay with a 'setting' because it's much easier to say, "We are singing Mass XI" than to say, "Kyrie from Mass VIII, Gloria from Mass I", etc.

If you had a chance to put together a Mass where you could have the parts from any Ordinary chanted, which ones would you pick? Granted that we are not familiar with all 18 settings (although that is a project of mine), for my first choiceI would select:

Kyrie ad lib. Clemens Rector
Gloria IX
Sanctus XI
Agnus Dei IV

But there's so many good ones! Another selection:

Kyrie IV
Gloria XI
Sanctus VIII
Agnus Dei I

And Credo IV is my favorite Credo, even if it is late and decadent.
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famous composers have admired Gregorian Chant

August 3, 2013, 10:17 pm
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from O’Brien, J. (1881). A History of the Mass and Its Ceremonies in the Eastern and Western Church (p. 80). New York: The Catholic Publication Society Co.:
The merits of the Gregorian Chant are known to all; and who that has ever heard it rendered as it should be will not say that it has a divine influence over the soul? If St. Augustine wept upon hearing the Ambrosian Chant, many more recent than he have wept, too, upon hearing the simple but soul-stirring strains of the pure Gregorian. The Venerable Bede, for example, tells us how deeply affected St. Cuthbert used to be when chanting the Preface, so much so that his sobbing could be heard through the entire congregation; and, as he raised his hands on high at the “Sursum corda,” his singing was rather a sort of solemn moaning than anything else (Vita S. Cuthbert, cap. xvi.). The renowned Haydn was often moved to tears at listening to the children of the London charity schools sing the psalms together in unison according to the Gregorian style; and the great master of musicians and composers, Mozart, went so far as to say that he would rather be the author of the Preface and Pater Noster, according to the same style, than of anything he had ever written. These are but a few of the numerous encomiums passed upon this sacred chant by men who were so eminently qualified to constitute themselves judges.
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Offertory - Precatus est Moyses

August 1, 2008, 11:55 am
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Does anyone have any insights about this coming Sunday's offertory "Precatus est Moyses"? Specifically, I wonder why the long introductory phrase "Precatus est Moyses in conspectu Domini Dei sui et dixit" is repeated almost (but not exactly) note-for-note? How should this be interpreted? I was thinking about making the repeated text a little more plaintive and expressive. What's your take?

...And isn't this consturction highly unusual for the idiom?
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Musicam Sacram: Gregorian Chant should have pride of place in litrugy when it is celebrated in Latin

August 7, 2013, 10:50 am
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Andrew R. Motyka writes about a fascinating topic today regarding the Propers as presented at the latest NPM convention. He also discusses Musicam Sacram’s statement (and John Paul II’s reference to it): that Gregorian Chant should have pride of place in the liturgy when it is celebrated in Latin.

This is very interesting and insightful:
http://www.ccwatershed.org/blog/2013/aug/7/reading-honestly/
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"Pride of place"

June 8, 2013, 4:47 pm
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Beatus Servus Year C Communion

August 10, 2013, 12:22 pm
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Hi everyone,
I have started using the Introit (for Prelude), Offertory (after the Offertory Hymn), and Communion (before Communion Hymn) chants from the NOH as instrumental organ pieces. I'm sure there is an obvious answer to this, but why can't I find the communion for this week in the NOH? I know the EF and OF are on different cycles, but it seems that "Beatus Servus" doesn't appear at all? Am I missing something? For now I'm just going to play the Years A&B antiphon considering it's instrumental and no one will know the difference except me.
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Newly Set Versions of the Benedictus and Magnificat

August 12, 2013, 11:39 am
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Hi all,

I am looking for newly set versions of the Benedictus in Tones 2 and 8, and the Magnificat in Tones 2 and 6. I know the old Liber Usualis has been copied and pdf'd, but the typeface is not really suitable for printing. Any thoughts? Thanks-
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