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Where can I find Latin Propers and English Psalm verses for a Memorial Mass for a Bishop?

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Hello!

I need your help again...

I am looking for Propers in Latin and Psalm Verses for communion in English for a memorial Mass for a Bishop who passed away recently.

Can you help? Thank you in advance

Rebekah

OF Lauds Dec. 26-28?

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So, my Pastor asked our schola to chant OF Lauds in Latin for Dec. 26, 27, 28 (Stephen, John, Innocents, respectively). Does anyone have the hymns, antiphons, and short responsories for these? Thanks!

Seasonal propers vs. feast day propers

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I'm planning for an Advent Mass that happens to fall on the memorial of St. Lucy. Do I need to use the propers for her memorial (as listed in the Graduale), or can I still use the propers for the 2nd Thursday of Advent?

Or in general, is it permissible to use the propers of the time instead of a Saint's feast day propers when you have a Mass on that day? Is it different if it's a memorial rather than a feast? Any other things that should be taken into consideration?

Claro paschali gaudio - Translation Needed

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Can anyone supply a verse translation of the lauds hymn Claro Paschali Gaudio, found on p. 268 in Liber Hymnarius?
I am looking at a very interesting organ verse on this hymn (though on a different c.f.) by Allwood in The Mulliner Book.

GREGORIAN CHANT - Willi Apel

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I have this book, vintage 1958. Has current scholarship invalidated it or is it still of use? Recommendations for other newer texts are gratefully accepted. I am interested more in the history and development of the chant than strictly performance practice. May thanks to all! - tfs

Vespers Antiphon needed: Common of Pastors

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I am looking for one of the antiphons referenced in the OCO 1983 for the Vespers of a Pastor.
There's no musical reference, just a * next to the name. It's the 3rd antiphon: Oves meae...et fiet unum.
Anyone know where it could be found?
Maybe the more recent OCO has a different set of antiphons?

Any help would be appreciated, otherwise I will substitute with another.

Neo-Gallican Chant

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Hello! Obscure chant question again... would anyone here know where to find the Neo-Gallican chants composed by Nivers, Delalande, Campra et al?

Scribus and Gregorio (in a Windows environment), any automation gurus out there?

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After lurking here for a time and going through the documentation on the gregorio github site, I've finally got everything running smoothly in Windows 10. I opted out of doing the full install of TeX Live, so it was a trying experience to find all of the individual packages that needed to be installed for gregorio to give me any output, but it was all worthwhile. I can now just paste GABC coding into the editor and it spits out some fancy-looking chant :)

I tinkered with the TeX options a bit so the name of the chant would automatically get added in small caps to the title line:
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This helps save some time when pulling scores from the outstanding GregoBase website.

At my parish, we're currently using some old-school (Xerox) cut and paste jobs to organize the responses, ordinaries, and propers for the choirs each week, so I figured I'd try building the responses/ordinaries pages in Scribus and came up with the attached PDF. As we gradually introduce more Latin to the congregation, I hope to eventually replace all of the English responses.

So now to complicate things... Has anyone had any experience in getting Scribus to pull data from an external source? My goal would be to automate the creation of a propers document similar to how the GABC Transcription Tool can pull a particular set of scores based on the week of the Liturgical Calendar.

INVITATORY books available - Latin - Overstock UPDATED

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INVITATORY
Invitatory Books, used at the monastic Office of Invitatory Books, used at the monastic Office of Matins. The tones and antiphons vary according to feast and season and are of a genre different from any other Chant Book. The melodies are ancient but timeless. Those of us who have sung them (at 2am in the morning) can testify that they are unforgettable.


The Abbey is renovating and is reclaiming space, making these books available.

These books appear to all be new and unused.

Details




Subpunctis Neumes

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This doesn't make sense. Are the graphics and their labels mixed up? Are the images actually a scandicus subbipunctis and a podatus subtripunctis?
imageSource: Joseph Robert Carroll: An Applied Course in Gregorian Chant. Toledo: GIA, 1956.

Propers for Nov 17 - St. Gregory, Confessor and Bishop

Typesetting help: layout problem in bilingual Gregorio project

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Hello,

I'm typesetting a bilingual booklet for Office of Compline in TexShop, with the left pages in Latin and the right pages in Spanish. I've arrived at a point where I can't manage to fit all the chant into one page, so it naturally breaks off into a new page. The thing is, I would like to have the chant continue two pages after the break, as the page immediately following is the wrong language. Any help would be appreciated - perhaps simply being able to omit the automatic large letter at the beginning of each chant would allow me to make two files out of the chant in question and effect the break by hand? Either that or some kind of package in TexShop which can skip a page when continuing .gabc files...?

I hope this makes some kind of sense! I'm a bit new to TEX.

Thank you in advance for your responses,
Carlos

Where does the modern Ave Maria chant come from?

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There are two extensive research papers written on where the first part of the Ave Maria prayer and chant comes from, but I can find very little suggesting when/ where/ by whom the second half of the Ave Maria was set to music. Here are the two articles I found which have given some momentum if anyone else is interested in figuring this out as well:
A fairly recent one: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/plainsong-and-medieval-music/article/enhancing-the-ave-maria-in-the-ars-antiqua/5FF1E88E4B2D5A84CA7C624299B3D2A1
An older one: https://shareok.org/bitstream/handle/11244/5264/8423988.PDF?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Requesting advice on chanting Liturgia Horarum daily

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Greetings from Santiago de Chile,

I've been reading this forum for over a year, and I'm a member of the CMAA, but this is my first post and topic. I would like to thank, in the first place, to all the very knowledgeable members that make this forum such a great resource on everything related to Gregorian Chant.

I'm a chanted Office enthusiast, but I "struggle" daily to sing Liturgia Horarum in Latin, for Lauds, Vespers and Compline, according to the 2015 Ordo Cantus Officii. For Compline, I use Ad Completorium by Steven Van Roode (Thank you for this great book!), and for Vespers on Sundays and feasts the Antiphonale Romanum II.

For Lauds everyday and Vespers on weekdays, my procedure is more or less like this:

1) I sing the invitatory antiphon and psalm for Lauds from the Liber Hymnarius.

2) The hymns, obviously from the Liber Hymnarius too.

3) Sadly, I just recite the psalms with the antiphons from iBreviary (a shame).

4) In advance, I collect the brief responsories according to the OCO in my tablet, so I can sing them daily without much time invested.

5) I locate the Mangificat and Benedictus antiphon for the day in the source specified in the OCO (when this is possible!) and sing the Gospel canticle in accordance.

Even with this minimum singing, there are times when the OCO asks for an antiphon from the manuscript tradition, or one listed in the Corpus Antiphonalium Officii or the Antiphonarium Cisterciense or any other rather uncommon source (unlike the familiar Antiphonale Romanum (1912) or the Antiphonale Monasticum (1934) for example) and I'm left without a practical musical setting and usually, to my frustration, end up with the Gospel canticle recited. Also, I don't like to recite the psalms, but I don't have the time to look for the three antiphons on a daily basis, especially when the OCO directs to the sources listed above.

As far as I understand, some of this "manuscript tradition" antiphons have been restored in Saulnier's Antiphonale Monasticum (2005 ->) (but arranged for the monastic practice) and I think they can even be found in Les Heures Gregoriennes. I would like to ask you, more experienced in this area than me, if investing in one, or both of these works would make singing the Liturgia Horarum any less problematic, or at least to have the music so I don't miss chanting the psalms or Gospel canticles because I lack a antiphon from an obscure source.

Thanks in advance!

Decadent Enchantments

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Who here has read the Katherine Bergeron book Decadent Enchantments about the solesmes chant restoration?

It presents a few questions to my mind:
1. If music notation has been more solidified in the 1800s, would square notation have even been used by solesmes?

2. Would more choirs (congregations) sing chant today if it were in modern notation?

3. In this age of congregational singing, would more congregations chant if chant were slower and less melismatic?

I’m sure a lot more questions could be suggested by this book...

Solesmes Salicus Again - HELP NEEDED!

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In the Solesmes rhythmic edition, a salicus is sometimes indicated by a vertical episema placed over the podatus, in which case the sign "indicates a rather important ictus which should be brought out in the rendering" (Rules for Interpretation). A podatus with a vertical episema above it followed by a virga doesn't always indicate a salicus however. One of my singers has asked how to distinguish one from the other without consulting another book and I'm stumped. In the offertory for the upcoming feast of St. Michael, we have the following, a true salicus:
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Whereas in the gradual for the feast of the Holy Rosary, we find the same notation at the word justitiam signifying something else:
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Is there some explanation? Why is there an episema or ictus mark at that spot in the latter? Similarly in the gradual Probasti at meum and the offertory Angelus at dixit. Obviously, whether or not the notation indicates a salicus can easily be determined with reference to the St. Gall neumes or even the modern notation edition of the Liber:
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But how on earth is one supposed to figure that out from the rhythmic edition alone??

Making an English "Les Heures Gregoriennes"

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Hello all,

I'm looking at compiling a Latin/English side by side version of Les Heures Gregoriennes, or something of that ilk (I may start with just Lauds and Vespers), and I have the possibility of a stipend from my College's Honors Program to help me. I have a couple questions I was hoping to run by you all.

Firstly, if I'm to compile this for the use of all the faithful, should I follow the Ordo Cantus Officii when LHG deviates from it?

Secondly, how do other Liturgical books fall into this, such as the new, three volume Antiphonale Monasticum? Can antiphons that have been updated in those be used in place of older versions in the 1934 AM referenced in OCO?

Thirdly, how do I go about securing copyright stuffs, so I'm not stealing from Solesmes? Do I just need to contact them?

I may think of others as I go, and I'd love to hear your thoughts or advice on this project.

Many thanks and God Bless!

Appendix to the Liber Usualis

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At the end of every Liber Usualis, following the Supplement for Certain Religious Congregations, is usually the propers of feasts kept in certain areas and countries. For example, the .pdf copy of said book downloadable from Sanctmissa has proper feasts kept in the dioceses of the US. A friend of mine has another set of proper feasts, this time from the dioceses of Spain.

POINT: Does anyone possess a Liber Usualis which has a yet different set of proper feasts from those mentioned above (e.g. from France or Germany)? Could it be posted here?

"And with your spirit"

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Dear Friends,
As some of you know, I am living currently in the german countries.
I was recently in a discussion about the correct tones when the congregation answers the priest "and with your spirit" (Und mit deinem Geiste).
How do I know which are the correct tones to sing?
Is it in the Missal, or is there a 1500 year old tradition here?

For the Forma Extraordinaria, I would look in a liber usualis, but my question is about the forma ordinaria.

Thank you for your assistance,

Jason.

Seminarians chanting

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